Transcribed below as well.
Arizona Cop Brandon Tatum, just made a video of a rant against those who kneeled for the national anthem protesting police brutality and he is what’s wrong with policing. Here are some of my refutations to him and others who agree with him.
As always, my goal is to be unbiased and factual, so if there is error in the facts, please feel free to point them out. Also I want to point out that I have been deployed at least half the year for the last three years (2014, 2015, and 2016) before becoming inactive as an Naval Officer (O-3, LT) December 31st, 2016. My father has worked in the criminal justice system for over 30 years, in prisons, with the housing authority, and alongside police during that time, while other family members and close friends have been and some still are police officers, undercover police officers, and served/serve in the military. I still have my secret clearance as well because above all else, it is about protecting the constitution and moving this nation forward along with the citizens here.
To begin this is about police brutality and unequal treatment based on skin color, but even if it was just about the national anthem, then good. A slave owner who didn’t want slaves to be saved or freed wrote it. “No refuge could save the hireling or slave” (third stanza). I’ve seen many interpretations, and whether it was intended for the slaves who the British recruited to fight the colonies, or the slaves here at the time, he meant what he said, slave. That alone should be reason enough to take a second look at the anthem.
Instead of being rational though, you sound like a naive child, as well as those who agree with you and it worries me that you’re a police officer. As emotional as you were in your rant, between your high pitched voice and you even admitting that this has gotten you angry, I can only imagine what you are like in the field when your emotions run high—similar to the thing the kneeling protest is about—unchecked police power and police brutality that stems from emotions. “I feared”… I hear that too many times. I wouldn’t want to be on any military mission with members of the unit who constantly got scared and reacted, or even worse made a conscious decision to take the law, policy, and procedures into their own hands. Truthfully speaking, you [police] are not qualified to do that, nor is it your job, which is why we have judges who are.
The militarization of the police and their accompanying unchecked power shouldn’t just worry blacks. Blacks are only 13% of the population, so in the worst case there isn’t much to fear. It should worry whites. Throughout the world historically, it has been a nation’s own government that inflicts the most pain and hardship on its citizens and militarizing the police is a step in that direction.
I understand that you were once in the military, well maybe you forgot why you haven’t heard active duty military members stand up and say something, because they are professional, all races of them. They DO put their personal biases to the side to carry out the mission, but in your state I don’t believe you would. How would your interaction be with Colin Kapernick if you pulled him over at a traffic stop—from your rhetoric I don’t think it would be good for him.
Contrary to your belief on oppression, last year a United Nations group condemned various events toward the historical treatment of blacks but more current were mass incarceration, the drug war, the “human rights crisis” of police killings; and called for reparations, all against the United States government.
So yes the American government is capable of, and along with homegrown terrorist groups like the KKK, of tearing down the nuclear family and a person or persons sense of self-worth. It did happen with the black community in America and now we are seeing its long withstanding effects.
A current example someone can use as oppression is the Opioid crisis vs. the crack-cocaine war on drugs that began in the 80s and unfairly targeted inner city minorities, while the answer for those addicted to opioids now is treatment. Not the same unfair mandatory minimums for non-violent offenses those in the crack era experienced, while their drug dealing or using counterparts of powder cocaine continued to go uncheck, even having some of its users in White House.
When people say America is the greatest country that ever existed you are doing our country a disservice. I would say we’ve made more progress than any other country that has ever existed, but we have a long way to go to become great, and recognizing that is what will get us there faster. Please tell me the year, or groups of years we were a great country. As my family elders to this day still say ask, what year?
Slavery ended in 1865, so certainly not before that,
The Civil rights act wasn’t passed until 1964,
Jim Crow laws were enforced until 1965,
The Voting rights act wasn’t passed until 1965 and it still to this day has to be renewed every so often, and
The Tuskegee Syphilis experiments ran from 1932-1972—and that’s the one we know of.
So what year was America great? If everything just magically ended once laws were passed, which we know not to be true, we are still only looking at about 50 years of “greatness.” My parents are older than that, and the elders in my family are well into their 80s and 90s and were part of the population that migrated from the south during the great or black migration and moved North.
When some of you grew up honoring your family members for serving in WWII, I grew up hearing about the atrocities of black people getting lynched in Alabama, where my family hails from, the Detroit race riot of 1943, the Detroit riots of 1967, which my family was alive and there for both, family members imprisoned because after leaving the south where blacks were getting lynched and hanged they were summoned to fight in WWII and said no.
You mentioned the “real sacrifice” of people who fought and died for the flag and it’s similar to the real sacrifice of blacks and whites who fought and died for our freedom here at home against a once truly oppressive government and we didn’t even really win, there were just concessions to keep the noise down.
Speaking of fighting, who fought for what? The U.S. has only had 1 real withstanding war at home from a foreign invader and that was from the government they turned against. Besides 9/11 and Pearl Harbor, we’ve have left our homes to go fight.
And for those who love to talk about the violence and murder rate in the black community, which is a problem not just for blacks, but for Americans, those same problems would exist in the wider mainstream community if you were to bring every military member back home today, which is why we can’t. Everyone who has studied power and control in any society understands this. The warrior class is real, there are people who fight and kill, it’s what they do, and if there isn’t a standing military and you group a bunch of warriors together in a tight space and make them compete for resources, while providing them with nothing to do, they will fight, start organizations [gangs], and kill each other. There is a reason, not only the United States, but any country cannot afford to take the risk of bringing all of their troops home. They must fight and they want to. Every country with a homogenous population in terms of race, still kill each other. In fact, since America’s inception, more whites have disproportionately killed each other than blacks. Are we not going to count the civil war?
How about we all just work on ‘MAG,’ ‘making America great.’
This country was overtaken by a group of terrorist who not only didn’t stand for their flag, but they destroyed it and created a new one. Our very foundation is corrupt and we are experiencing its ancillary effects.
The flag and national anthem has everything to do with what people are talking about. It’s the representation of the core values our country stands on and since it’s inception, they haven’t been good in action.
You also mentioned protesting with respect. Does the U.S. handle our international affairs with respect?
Look at the U.S and it’s security practices. If there is even a chance of a country or group having the ability to attack us we are proactive in our approaches, even with our allies. We occupy foreign countries—it’s right to do strategically from a national security point of view, but don’t ever get it confused with actually being right and Americans from all backgrounds bite the bullet to do the nations bidding.
Are blacks this proactive here at home? No. The United States government has already shown it disregard for black life throughout our short history, but are we putting the corrective measures in place to ensure it will never happen again? No, because black Americans do actually believe in the flag and government and hope they will do the right thing regardless of the historical facts. If our nation wanted to exterminate blacks today, who would stop them and stand with us? Unfortunately it’s a question that occasionally keeps me up because the possibility is real, its already happened on a small scale. So as a black man in America we are under constant threat, because all we have is a half word from the government that we will be treated as equal and we have no other choice but to believe that.
You did ask people to point out the good with the bad, so I will do that.
One thing that is true about America and the flag is that the opportunity is there for everyone. Is the playing field even, not nearly enough, but it is getting there. The flag represents if you want something you take it. Don’t want to be under the rule of another country or government, fight for your freedom, don’t want to pay taxes, fight not to.
How quickly do we forget the “no taxation without representation.” Well when I look around, especially when I hear politicians say “African-American communities,” as if they are also not the leaders of our communities, I’m not seeing representation. We are all supposed to be one community. One nation.
You telling athletes they are irrelevant is the same as telling any other person with a job they are as well. Anyone who works for someone can be fired and become irrelevant the next day as you put it.
For example, you’re a police officer now, but if you get fired tomorrow, you are irrelevant. We can hire another one. And since you put money into the equation, just like billionaire President Trump doesn’t care about athletes, as you stated, millionaire athletes don’t care too much for you. You’re not making money because you’re a greatest police officer just as you said the athletes aren’t making money just because they play good—if you have a leg injury you can be replaced, remember that. Remember who pays your salary. You make money because people need you and want to support you. When you act like there isn’t a problem, when you spit in their face they will no longer support you, when you talk trash, they will no longer be a part of that. You don’t disrespect a group of people just to say we’re right. The end.
I can tell you, like most people, have a poor man’s mentality [that is financially] because the biggest thing most people say is that their millionaire cry babies. What does their financial status have to do with anything?
Colin Kapernick and other NFL/NBA players just [somewhat] did their job as citizens. They raised awareness, alerted others, and now people fit for the execution of solving these issues are on it. Except these people don’t always speak, they work behind the scenes and I’m here to tell you there are people working behind the scenes.
Keep the politics in sports and if they go “bye bye,” [as another punch-drunk on Kool-Aid commenter James T Harris said] then good. Oh and James, that photo of you in a full American flag outfit violates the code of the flag. It shouldn’t be worn as an outfit, but that part worked for you so you disregarded it. At least the players are kneeling with purpose. It’s every citizens job to make this country better regardless of their circumstances, job, or financial health.
You’re right on another front. Athletes aren’t doing enough. If it were up to me there wouldn’t be any blacks in sports making billions of dollars for owners and in a league in which they are disproportionately under represented in positions of power. They would be on the front lines running for office, passing legislation, creating jobs, building and merging communities of all races, something you did allude to.
For those who truly want to know what it feels like to be black in America, rename yourself Muhammad Bin Laden, adopt the Islam/Muslim faith, and move to the Middle East for a year. No where radical, maybe Dubai, but the fact is some of you wouldn’t even be able to stomach it, however you are telling people, that are still alive, who lived through an oppressive regime (people like my elders) and whose parents experienced worse, and grandparents (the slaves at the time), that nothing is wrong and if it is get over it.
You are, as well as many others I’ve heard, are also right about having tangible goals that are attainable, and here they are:
- An official recognition and apology for slavery and the ancillary practices of oppression such as the Jim Crow laws and the various coordinated attempts from the government or lack-there-of protection by the government to intentionally destroy the black community, from the office of the President of the United States.
- A government sponsored committee dedicated to the tracking of and registration of every member in the KKK and Black Legion, their family members, and the removal of them from current government positions such as the ones in the judicial system and police force.
- The arrest of those involved with or committed murder, either by lynching or otherwise to black Americans, from 1865 to our current time.
- Get rid of the voting rights act and place it into our system as a standing law, not something that must be renewed.
- Rewrite the national anthem to reflect where this country has been, where we are as a nation today, and where we are going together.
In return we (America) should:
- Phase out affirmative action. Like you I do agree, overt oppression isn’t there and what’s left can be overcome if people really want to do it.
- Disregard reparations. This is the sole reason blacks have never received an apology from the office of the president of the United States. They believe an official apology would lay the ground for reparations. Blacks shouldn’t want it, nor do we need it. There is already a plan in place to bring wealth to the community, the only question is, would the United States actually allow blacks to financially withdraw from the economy if these demands weren’t met? And that is why I fear for my security as a black man.
- Disregard war crimes committed by the United States. People’s go to excuse is, well everyone was doing it at the time in regards to slavery, inhumane treatment, etc., as if that makes it right, but it is factual. In addition, slavery is just as much the fault of Africans as their European counterparts at the time, a post for tomorrow perhaps, so dropping the prosecution for war crimes against the United States and the ongoing resentment along with it can work.
The above actions are fair and make no mistake, they all will come to fruition, but it’s my hope it happens with the help of people from all sides and with the leadership of the government.
What the flag represents to me is freedom and power for everyone. The Mongols had their time, the Roman Empire, the British Empire, now the American Empire; the point being that it keeps changing because people are able to change it. That flag is a remainder to me, that people like Hitler, Stalin, and the once repulsive American government can and do exist, and as an unbiased observation of them, it is possible for one person or a small group of people to take whatever they want either through political, lawful, or violent means. So as far as those who tell people to leave if they don’t like it, it’s not happening, EVER. This country, this world, doesn’t belong to anyone and if you have a problem with that you can just leave.
Oh and if you haven’t served in the military and you’re not a politician, please stop posting, reposting, and speaking on behalf of our service members, because you clearly don’t seem to understand our military is by far one of the most diverse organizations on the planet. So justifying how your brother, mother, father, sister, husband, cousin, or friend who served or died to fit your narrative doesn’t work. It’s differing opinions on this topic throughout the ranks, and active duty military members have access to the Internet and they have Public Affairs Officers to make statements if they wanted, so your additional input isn’t needed. They served for their reasons, not you.
Kneeling for the national anthem is the right thing to do as long as you’re taking action to ensure people won’t have to ever feel the need to kneel for it again.
I hope everyone has a blessed day; I look forward to hearing factual and/or thoughtful constructive feedback not only to fix this issue, but to also show both sides people are capable of engaging in uncomfortable conversations without becoming a radical and emotional wreck, like the Tatum guy who made the first video.
Oh and while this is in no way meant to bash the Commander in Chief, in regards to President Trump telling owners to fire athletes who kneel…
18 U.S. Code § 227 stipulates that any federal employee, member of Congress, or member of the executive branch is forbidden from using their position within the federal government to influence the employment decisions of a private business, solely on the basis of partisan political affiliation. The penalty for doing so could result in fines and incarceration of up to 15 years, and anyone who is found guilty of violating that law could even be disqualified from holding office:
(a)Whoever, being a covered government person, with the intent to influence, solely on the basis of partisan political affiliation, an employment decision or employment practice of any private entity—
(1) takes or withholds, or offers or threatens to take or withhold, an official act, or
(2) influences or offers or threatens to influence, the official act of another shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than 15 years, or both, and may be disqualified from holding any office of honor, trust, or profit under the United States.
(b)In this section, the term “covered government person” means—
(1) a Senator or Representative in, or a Delegate or Resident Commissioner to, the Congress;
(2) an employee of either House of Congress; or
(3) the President, Vice President, an employee of the United States Postal Service or the Postal Regulatory Commission, or any other executive branch employee (as such term is defined under section 2105 of title 5, United States Code).